Just to make it clear exactly when you should be using Obeka it's important to know when effects happen. Card Kingdom Price From $0.22. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. NM; EX; VG; G; 2 available @ $0.79 . There is a smattering of ways you can run less lands/ramp, but these all come with downsides, but in Grixis you can run 4 solid Bounce Lands, Dimir Aqueduct and Guildless Commons should be in here as well if you want a lower land count, these let you hit another land drop when you draw them. 1x Command Tower. ._1QwShihKKlyRXyQSlqYaWW{height:16px;width:16px;vertical-align:bottom}._2X6EB3ZhEeXCh1eIVA64XM{margin-left:3px}._1jNPl3YUk6zbpLWdjaJT1r{font-size:12px;font-weight:500;line-height:16px;border-radius:2px;display:inline-block;margin-right:5px;overflow:hidden;text-overflow:ellipsis;vertical-align:text-bottom;white-space:pre;word-break:normal;padding:0 4px}._1jNPl3YUk6zbpLWdjaJT1r._39BEcWjOlYi1QGcJil6-yl{padding:0}._2hSecp_zkPm_s5ddV2htoj{font-size:12px;font-weight:500;line-height:16px;border-radius:2px;display:inline-block;margin-right:5px;overflow:hidden;text-overflow:ellipsis;vertical-align:text-bottom;white-space:pre;word-break:normal;margin-left:0;padding:0 4px}._2hSecp_zkPm_s5ddV2htoj._39BEcWjOlYi1QGcJil6-yl{padding:0}._1wzhGvvafQFOWAyA157okr{font-size:12px;font-weight:500;line-height:16px;border-radius:2px;margin-right:5px;overflow:hidden;text-overflow:ellipsis;vertical-align:text-bottom;white-space:pre;word-break:normal;box-sizing:border-box;line-height:14px;padding:0 4px}._3BPVpMSn5b1vb1yTQuqCRH,._1wzhGvvafQFOWAyA157okr{display:inline-block;height:16px}._3BPVpMSn5b1vb1yTQuqCRH{background-color:var(--newRedditTheme-body);border-radius:50%;margin-left:5px;text-align:center;width:16px}._2cvySYWkqJfynvXFOpNc5L{height:10px;width:10px}.aJrgrewN9C8x1Fusdx4hh{padding:2px 8px}._1wj6zoMi6hRP5YhJ8nXWXE{font-size:14px;padding:7px 12px}._2VqfzH0dZ9dIl3XWNxs42y{border-radius:20px}._2VqfzH0dZ9dIl3XWNxs42y:hover{opacity:.85}._2VqfzH0dZ9dIl3XWNxs42y:active{transform:scale(.95)} (Note the lack of the word "next".) Jesper Ejsing. 719.1d; see also C.R. If I understand, the Thawing Glaciers cleanup-step trigger reestablishes priority. Donate below to support the site and remove all ads. Normally, players don't get to do anything in the Cleanup Step, but if something triggers or if a state-based action does something in the Cleanup Step, players do get priority. One one hand, all actions and decisions are voluntary and not mandatory, so it's not a forced draw. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. EDIT (Sep. 18): Some rules were renumbered in the meantime. Magic Online Promos Rare. It has " Tap: The player whose turn it is may end the turn. Commander protection is major in this deck, as are ways to untap your commander (because Blue says sleepy sleepy). I wanted to ask - when you say for Delina: Don't you mean "At the end of next combat."? ._2cHgYGbfV9EZMSThqLt2tx{margin-bottom:16px;border-radius:4px}._3Q7WCNdCi77r0_CKPoDSFY{width:75%;height:24px}._2wgLWvNKnhoJX3DUVT_3F-,._3Q7WCNdCi77r0_CKPoDSFY{background:var(--newCommunityTheme-field);background-size:200%;margin-bottom:16px;border-radius:4px}._2wgLWvNKnhoJX3DUVT_3F-{width:100%;height:46px} Flip) to ensure you can consistently cast stuff. You have to choose a finite amount of times to execute the loop. Damage wears off, and "this turn" and "until end of turn" effects end. Priority passes to you. It's akin to "concede or I stall". This sequence may be a non-repetitive series of choices, a loop that repeats a specified number of times, multiple loops, or nested loops, and may even cross multiple turns. This site is unaffiliated. The ending point of this sequence must be a place where a player has priority, though it need not be the player proposing the shortcut. I'm not certain the Commander has enough explosive power to consistently win vs 2 decks, but I have very good results in 1 v 1 with my Rakdos deck, and it often has spare cards by the end of the game, be it wipe or removal, because the deck just runs so much of those, with lots of the removal hitting more than 1 target (I love stuff like Phyrexian Purge, Fire Covenant, Make an Example, and Volcanic Offering can each be a terror of a card, and a deck running all of them has lots of pinpoint removal that will clear lots of stuff out. 3) State-based actions are checked. Revolving around reoccurring powerful, expensive creatures from the graveyard via cheap spells, there have been a lot of iterations of this concept. EDIT (Sep. 24, 2022): Remove a rule citation. Firecat Blitz: how does it effect tokens that disappear on the end step . After looking into the rules surrounding loops and using the best of my judgely knowledge, it does appear to work, but I can't find any specific mentions of the situation on oracle rulings, or threads of the interaction in general, which seemed odd to me, considering the strangeness of this interaction. Commander / EDH Multiplayer Tokens UBR (Grixis) Cobara86. Obeka, Brute Chronologist. I just realized that your Avatar "Kaho, Minamo Historian" goes infinite for 6 mana with Finale Fortune o.O, Wish we could find room for Glorious End as well. ._9ZuQyDXhFth1qKJF4KNm8{padding:12px 12px 40px}._2iNJX36LR2tMHx_unzEkVM,._1JmnMJclrTwTPpAip5U_Hm{font-size:16px;font-weight:500;line-height:20px;color:var(--newCommunityTheme-bodyText);margin-bottom:40px;padding-top:4px;text-align:left;margin-right:28px}._2iNJX36LR2tMHx_unzEkVM{-ms-flex-align:center;align-items:center;display:-ms-flexbox;display:flex}._2iNJX36LR2tMHx_unzEkVM ._24r4TaTKqNLBGA3VgswFrN{margin-left:6px}._306gA2lxjCHX44ssikUp3O{margin-bottom:32px}._1Omf6afKRpv3RKNCWjIyJ4{font-size:18px;font-weight:500;line-height:22px;border-bottom:2px solid var(--newCommunityTheme-line);color:var(--newCommunityTheme-bodyText);margin-bottom:8px;padding-bottom:8px}._2Ss7VGMX-UPKt9NhFRtgTz{margin-bottom:24px}._3vWu4F9B4X4Yc-Gm86-FMP{border-bottom:1px solid var(--newCommunityTheme-line);margin-bottom:8px;padding-bottom:2px}._3vWu4F9B4X4Yc-Gm86-FMP:last-of-type{border-bottom-width:0}._2qAEe8HGjtHsuKsHqNCa9u{font-size:14px;font-weight:500;line-height:18px;color:var(--newCommunityTheme-bodyText);padding-bottom:8px;padding-top:8px}.c5RWd-O3CYE-XSLdTyjtI{padding:8px 0}._3whORKuQps-WQpSceAyHuF{font-size:12px;font-weight:400;line-height:16px;color:var(--newCommunityTheme-actionIcon);margin-bottom:8px}._1Qk-ka6_CJz1fU3OUfeznu{margin-bottom:8px}._3ds8Wk2l32hr3hLddQshhG{font-weight:500}._1h0r6vtgOzgWtu-GNBO6Yb,._3ds8Wk2l32hr3hLddQshhG{font-size:12px;line-height:16px;color:var(--newCommunityTheme-actionIcon)}._1h0r6vtgOzgWtu-GNBO6Yb{font-weight:400}.horIoLCod23xkzt7MmTpC{font-size:12px;font-weight:400;line-height:16px;color:#ea0027}._33Iw1wpNZ-uhC05tWsB9xi{margin-top:24px}._2M7LQbQxH40ingJ9h9RslL{font-size:12px;font-weight:400;line-height:16px;color:var(--newCommunityTheme-actionIcon);margin-bottom:8px} 719.1d; see also C.R. A couple days ago my friend told me the heard about a quirky rules lawyer-y interaction involving [[Obeka, Brute Chronologist]] that I just love if it's true. This trigger looks for the next end step to happen and triggers at that time. Go ahead and say nuh-uh to whatever shit is flying in your face. Card Kingdom $624 - 564. It doesn't work at all. I activate Aphetto Alchemist targeting itself and Obeka. Would it just come down to whoever loses patience first? 99.9% of the time you should be ending your own turn, but on the odd occasion you could use it as a tool to prevent other players from using instants during other players turns. Potentially showing that Wizards intended the terms to be interchangeable, at least on older cards. If you end the turn with Obeka (or Sundial of the Infinite), this will move the turn to the cleanup step (C.R. ._2FKpII1jz0h6xCAw1kQAvS{background-color:#fff;box-shadow:0 0 0 1px rgba(0,0,0,.1),0 2px 3px 0 rgba(0,0,0,.2);transition:left .15s linear;border-radius:57%;width:57%}._2FKpII1jz0h6xCAw1kQAvS:after{content:"";padding-top:100%;display:block}._2e2g485kpErHhJQUiyvvC2{-ms-flex-align:center;align-items:center;display:-ms-flexbox;display:flex;-ms-flex-pack:start;justify-content:flex-start;background-color:var(--newCommunityTheme-navIconFaded10);border:2px solid transparent;border-radius:100px;cursor:pointer;position:relative;width:35px;transition:border-color .15s linear,background-color .15s linear}._2e2g485kpErHhJQUiyvvC2._3kUvbpMbR21zJBboDdBH7D{background-color:var(--newRedditTheme-navIconFaded10)}._2e2g485kpErHhJQUiyvvC2._3kUvbpMbR21zJBboDdBH7D._1L5kUnhRYhUJ4TkMbOTKkI{background-color:var(--newRedditTheme-active)}._2e2g485kpErHhJQUiyvvC2._3kUvbpMbR21zJBboDdBH7D._1L5kUnhRYhUJ4TkMbOTKkI._3clF3xRMqSWmoBQpXv8U5z{background-color:var(--newRedditTheme-buttonAlpha10)}._2e2g485kpErHhJQUiyvvC2._1asGWL2_XadHoBuUlNArOq{border-width:2.25px;height:24px;width:37.5px}._2e2g485kpErHhJQUiyvvC2._1asGWL2_XadHoBuUlNArOq ._2FKpII1jz0h6xCAw1kQAvS{height:19.5px;width:19.5px}._2e2g485kpErHhJQUiyvvC2._1hku5xiXsbqzLmszstPyR3{border-width:3px;height:32px;width:50px}._2e2g485kpErHhJQUiyvvC2._1hku5xiXsbqzLmszstPyR3 ._2FKpII1jz0h6xCAw1kQAvS{height:26px;width:26px}._2e2g485kpErHhJQUiyvvC2._10hZCcuqkss2sf5UbBMCSD{border-width:3.75px;height:40px;width:62.5px}._2e2g485kpErHhJQUiyvvC2._10hZCcuqkss2sf5UbBMCSD ._2FKpII1jz0h6xCAw1kQAvS{height:32.5px;width:32.5px}._2e2g485kpErHhJQUiyvvC2._1fCdbQCDv6tiX242k80-LO{border-width:4.5px;height:48px;width:75px}._2e2g485kpErHhJQUiyvvC2._1fCdbQCDv6tiX242k80-LO ._2FKpII1jz0h6xCAw1kQAvS{height:39px;width:39px}._2e2g485kpErHhJQUiyvvC2._2Jp5Pv4tgpAsTcnUzTsXgO{border-width:5.25px;height:56px;width:87.5px}._2e2g485kpErHhJQUiyvvC2._2Jp5Pv4tgpAsTcnUzTsXgO ._2FKpII1jz0h6xCAw1kQAvS{height:45.5px;width:45.5px}._2e2g485kpErHhJQUiyvvC2._1L5kUnhRYhUJ4TkMbOTKkI{-ms-flex-pack:end;justify-content:flex-end;background-color:var(--newCommunityTheme-active)}._2e2g485kpErHhJQUiyvvC2._3clF3xRMqSWmoBQpXv8U5z{cursor:default}._2e2g485kpErHhJQUiyvvC2._3clF3xRMqSWmoBQpXv8U5z ._2FKpII1jz0h6xCAw1kQAvS{box-shadow:none}._2e2g485kpErHhJQUiyvvC2._1L5kUnhRYhUJ4TkMbOTKkI._3clF3xRMqSWmoBQpXv8U5z{background-color:var(--newCommunityTheme-buttonAlpha10)} The way I understand it is the term "end of turn" is something that triggers every turn. Mana Cost: Converted Mana Cost: 4. Otherwise, priority would not pass to all players during a cleanup step, and there would be no need for a second end-the-turn effect? Card Name: Obeka, Brute Chronologist Mana Cost: Converted Mana Cost: 4 Types: Legendary Creature Ogre Wizard Card Text: : The player whose turn it is may end the turn. Here is how it would work. is there anyway for obeka's controller controller to keep control of the artifact that was taken due to nabber's effect? As with "beginning of the next end step" abilities, if you end the turn with Obeka (or Sundial of the Infinite) while a "beginning of the next cleanup step" ability is on the stack, that ability will be exiled and won't trigger again. 1x Crumbling Necropolis. Based on CR 722.2a. Another Goad source that is great with a creature heavy board is Agitator Ant, which is hilarious a lot of the time. As the active player you do your combo to untap and trigger it again. Obeka, Brute Chronologist | Upping the Average EDHRECast 50.1K subscribers Subscribe 1K 30K views 9 months ago Check out BOTH decklists below! 3) State-based actions are checked. It would be the active player not the one who started the loop. by Chakagozio, Speak "friend" and Enter [PRIMER] By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. I could theoretically choose a lower number than my opponent but there's no reason to, and so the loop repeats however many times the opponent chose and now they must make a new decision: end the turn. You can't "but I only did one then you chose no so I do it again" because now you're looping twice to the same board state as a result of the Obeka activation resolution, which is strictly against the rules. <i>(Exile all spells and abilities from the stack. I proceed to combat and trigger Myriad off a Broodbirth Viper and end the turn with Obeka, Brute Chronologist before the end of combat to keep the myriad tokens. 719.1b), but it will still trigger again at the next appropriate moment (C.R. Me, and the opponent choosing not to end the turn. But as the loop initiator, you are going to have to choose how many times you continue your loop, right? Effects that end 'at end of turn' and effects that end at the beginning of an end step. However, if this happens the game does another Cleanup Step once this one ends. Magic the Gathering, FNM is TM and copyright Wizards of the Coast, Inc, a subsidiary of Hasbro, Inc. All rights reserved. This doesn't work either because you are not at the same game state after your opponent decides to not end the turn. I really need more way to get haste into my deck and he seems like a pretty good add that can help cheat big dude into play that meet his restriction. Oneka's second ruling states during the end step and while the ability is still on the stack, that ability will be exiled and won't trigger again (C.R. Hello been a while since i've posted here but had a question, an issue came up in an edh game regarding the interaction between Obeka, Brute Chronologist and Treasure Nabber. If anyone has any information on this and can help us out, it would be much appreciated. And even if I'm wrong on both of those, I can almost gaurentee that if you tried this at a tournament a judge would accept "I'm going to say no to ending my turn indefinitely" as a reasonable way to end this loop. ._12xlue8dQ1odPw1J81FIGQ{display:inline-block;vertical-align:middle} Discord Server | He occupies a happy place in my Obeka, Brute Chronologist deck. 603.7). slythr: Answers to your question have been up for a while. A forum for Questions and Discussions about the Rules of Magic the Gathering. lothshteth. ._3oeM4kc-2-4z-A0RTQLg0I{display:-ms-flexbox;display:flex;-ms-flex-pack:justify;justify-content:space-between} ._2a172ppKObqWfRHr8eWBKV{-ms-flex-negative:0;flex-shrink:0;margin-right:8px}._39-woRduNuowN7G4JTW4I8{margin-top:12px}._136QdRzXkGKNtSQ-h1fUru{display:-ms-flexbox;display:flex;margin:8px 0;width:100%}.r51dfG6q3N-4exmkjHQg_{font-size:10px;font-weight:700;letter-spacing:.5px;line-height:12px;text-transform:uppercase;-ms-flex-pack:justify;justify-content:space-between;-ms-flex-align:center;align-items:center}.r51dfG6q3N-4exmkjHQg_,._2BnLYNBALzjH6p_ollJ-RF{display:-ms-flexbox;display:flex}._2BnLYNBALzjH6p_ollJ-RF{margin-left:auto}._1-25VxiIsZFVU88qFh-T8p{padding:0}._2nxyf8XcTi2UZsUInEAcPs._2nxyf8XcTi2UZsUInEAcPs{color:var(--newCommunityTheme-widgetColors-sidebarWidgetTextColor)} If there's a reason this rule doesn't apply here, another rule that applies, or a rule which prevents me from getting that far then I'm not aware. by Outcryqq 2 years ago, Post [Obeka, Brute Chronologist]] I want to build her so bad but every time I try I hurt my head . Damage wears off, and "this turn" and "until end of turn" effects end.) If you want to completely negate an end step trigger you can wait until it is put on the stack, and then end the turn in response. Obeka, Brute Chronologist 's entire textbox simply says "Consequences are stupid." Basically, it exiles anything on the stack, you can end your turn and ignore whatever it is, usually just saying no to poopy effects. Flip, Spear Spewer, and Thermo-Alchemist.Some maybe cards include Angrath, Captain of Chaos, and Cryptolith Fragment $0.10. (Exile all spells and abilities from the stack. There are two effects to look out for here. Hey all, my friend recently built an Obeka, Brute Chronologist deck and weve been struggling to understand the ruling. This will allow you to delay the trigger by a turn. Card Text. by JovialJovian 2 years ago, Post Your opponents, thus, can say no as many times as they want. 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